Comments on: Obesity - how the fat guy beside you is killing you, your family, and everything you love! http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/ Steve N. Lee, author of suspense thriller ‘What if…?’, explores environmental, rights, and conservation issues. Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:51:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Samantha Overy http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-120 Samantha Overy Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:20:07 +0000 http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-120 I am sorry to hear your story Kim. Overindulgence is a choice. Another aspect of obesity is the drain on medical resources. I personally believe if people, smoke, drink, overeat or continue to exacerbate their own medical conditions then unless they can afford the medical expenses themselves through their medical fund or personally then they should be denied medical treatment or operations until they are prepared to take the doctor's advice and not abuse the medical help they receive. There are people, CHILDREN on the waiting lists through no fault of their own and why should they die waiting for help when another person has had treatment or an operation and continues with their previous lifestyle, slapping the doctor in the face by their actions and wasting precious resources. Imagine if someone treated your hard work in this manner?! Why should little children die waiting when those who have received treatment don't appreciate it and abuse the privilege? I understand how difficult habits or addictions are and the huge effort it takes to overcome these obstacles. I smoked for 19 years but this is my 11th year smoke free. Why did I pollute my body all that time? Very sad but we all need to make the effort to help ourselves. If we aren't prepared to help ourselves why should anyone else help us,especially doctors whose time and services are very precious and in high demand and should be used for those who appreciate it and will be helped and not wasted on those who will abuse the privlege. I am sorry to hear your story Kim. Overindulgence is a choice. Another aspect of obesity is the drain on medical resources. I personally believe if people, smoke, drink, overeat or continue to exacerbate their own medical conditions then unless they can afford the medical expenses themselves through their medical fund or personally then they should be denied medical treatment or operations until they are prepared to take the doctor’s advice and not abuse the medical help they receive.
There are people, CHILDREN on the waiting lists through no fault of their own and why should they die waiting for help when another person has had treatment or an operation and continues with their previous lifestyle, slapping the doctor in the face by their actions and wasting precious resources. Imagine if someone treated your hard work in this manner?!
Why should little children die waiting when those who have received treatment don’t appreciate it and abuse the privilege?
I understand how difficult habits or addictions are and the huge effort it takes to overcome these obstacles. I smoked for 19 years but this is my 11th year smoke free. Why did I pollute my body all that time? Very sad but we all need to make the effort to help ourselves. If we aren’t prepared to help ourselves why should anyone else help us,especially doctors whose time and services are very precious and in high demand and should be used for those who appreciate it and will be helped and not wasted on those who will abuse the privlege.

]]> By: Samantha Overy http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-119 Samantha Overy Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:00:34 +0000 http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-119 Thank Steve. lionsledbysheep indeed. Oh to have to suffer the excesses of the western world where no restraint is necessary and gluttony is glorious!So much junk food, everywhere you look. Too much choice is wonderful but is also a big problem. There are so many people with no choice as they have no food at all. What is sad is that many people don't have the basic skills to understand nutrition and just eat utter junk that is detrimental to their health because it is convenient. In Australia this disgusting fast food society is becoming more ingrained and people pay for the convenience but a frozen meal zapped in the microwave or oven is healthier and about the same cost and containing vegetables and nutrition. Also if you shop weekly or fortnightly you are using less fuel and less packaging. While 2 billion people,one third of the world's population,go hungry, America alone throws out enough food each day to feed at least half of them. THAT is offensive. I have noticed the price of fruit and vegetables getting dearer but that is no excuse for the sloth and laziness of going to McDonald's everyday instead of having nutritious food. With all the media coverage it is easy to access information about things you don't know much about,so there really is no excuse for being morbidly obese or letting your children become obese if there is no medical reason. Obesity is as much child abuse as not feeding them enough.We can all be a bit healthier with a bit more effort. Thank Steve. lionsledbysheep indeed. Oh to have to suffer the excesses of the western world where no restraint is necessary and gluttony is glorious!So much junk food, everywhere you look. Too much choice is wonderful but is also a big problem. There are so many people with no choice as they have no food at all. What is sad is that many people don’t have the basic skills to understand nutrition and just eat utter junk that is detrimental to their health because it is convenient.
In Australia this disgusting fast food society is becoming more ingrained and people pay for the convenience but a frozen meal zapped in the microwave or oven is healthier and about the same cost and containing vegetables and nutrition. Also if you shop weekly or fortnightly you are using less fuel and less packaging. While 2 billion people,one third of the world’s population,go hungry, America alone throws out enough food each day to feed at least half of them. THAT is offensive. I have noticed the price of fruit and vegetables getting dearer but that is no excuse for the sloth and laziness of going to McDonald’s everyday instead of having nutritious food. With all the media coverage it is easy to access information about things you don’t know much about,so there really is no excuse for being morbidly obese or letting your children become obese if there is no medical reason. Obesity is as much child abuse as not feeding them enough.We can all be a bit healthier with a bit more effort.

]]> By: Steve N. Lee http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-101 Steve N. Lee Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:29:52 +0000 http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-101 After reading Kim's heartrending tale, I can't really see anything else to say on the subject of over-consumption. But please, don't lose sight of the fact that we are all obese in our own unqiue little ways. We all demand more and more and more without any care for what it's doing to us, to others, or the world in which we live. Thanks for sharing that with us, Kim. I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say that I hope you and your husband manage find a solution to this situation before it's too late. Steve After reading Kim’s heartrending tale, I can’t really see anything else to say on the subject of over-consumption.

But please, don’t lose sight of the fact that we are all obese in our own unqiue little ways. We all demand more and more and more without any care for what it’s doing to us, to others, or the world in which we live.

Thanks for sharing that with us, Kim. I’m sure I speak for everyone when I say that I hope you and your husband manage find a solution to this situation before it’s too late.

Steve

]]> By: Kim Wright http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-99 Kim Wright Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:35:28 +0000 http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-99 My husband and I have been married for 38 years. He is obese, weighting more than 300 lbs. Years ago I talked with him the potential effects of his weight on his health. We discussed diabetes, he continued to overeat and now has diabetes. I warned him about high blood pressure. He now suffers from hypertension. I have talked with him over and over about the consequences of his constant eating. He has had cancer, and has now developed a blocked artery. I have pleaded and begged. I provide healthy meals at home, but he still eats non-stop, and often goes out for food. He has children and grandchildren who need their grandpa, how can he be so selfish? His doctor has told him that if he doesn't stop overeating, he is going to die. I am so angry. This has gone on for years. How can people be so selfish. I am sick to death of hearing how obese people are hurt by the comments of those who are not. My husband is dying and his entire family is suffering from the pain of his selfishness. Don't even tell me that he just can't help it. He is the one who bends his elbow, opens his mouth and puts the food in! Everyone of us could be overindulgent in a multitude of areas. That is what self discipline is all about. Life is not just about taking care of "Me" and satisfying "My" desires. There are other people who are deeply effected by the choices that we make. My husband and I have been married for 38 years. He is obese, weighting more than 300 lbs. Years ago I talked with him the potential effects of his weight on his health. We discussed diabetes, he continued to overeat and now has diabetes. I warned him about high blood pressure. He now suffers from hypertension. I have talked with him over and over about the consequences of his constant eating. He has had cancer, and has now developed a blocked artery. I have pleaded and begged. I provide healthy meals at home, but he still eats non-stop, and often goes out for food. He has children and grandchildren who need their grandpa, how can he be so selfish? His doctor has told him that if he doesn’t stop overeating, he is going to die.

I am so angry. This has gone on for years. How can people be so selfish. I am sick to death of hearing how obese people are hurt by the comments of those who are not. My husband is dying and his entire family is suffering from the pain of his selfishness. Don’t even tell me that he just can’t help it. He is the one who bends his elbow, opens his mouth and puts the food in! Everyone of us could be overindulgent in a multitude of areas. That is what self discipline is all about. Life is not just about taking care of “Me” and satisfying “My” desires. There are other people who are deeply effected by the choices that we make.

]]> By: Karen http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-74 Karen Sun, 23 Mar 2008 22:55:42 +0000 http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-74 It's true, it's so true; I don't know what can be done! I have been compulsively eating for the past couple of weeks. When I meditate, I see the cause. Then I buy the food anyway. This is a very current trend for me. It is selfish. I'm using up my own resources, I'm contributing to society's consumerism. I'm aging my organs by making them work so much harder. It's terrible! Now, a fat tax... that's interesting. I think Oprah and her audience would stand against it. :) For me, I think I'm about to start consuming large bunches of celery. I do think it makes a difference what the attitudes are surrounding a person. In the US, it's very easy to get taken away by eating many large meals plus snacking, if the mood hits. I suspect it may be easier in Europe to at least at some point, if hit with this compulsion, hit a wall sooner. I mean, if there's a lot of discouragement. In the US, people have been getting bigger. Then they want it to be ok for others because the larger size can be normal. So fighting the compulsion to eat (or overly consume in some other way), is like fighting a societal current. Someone told me about an experience he had living in Southern California here in the States. He said that his keeping some sort of vehicle -- somebody told him that it had become unfashionable; like it was embarrassing for him that he didn't realize that. The point was that automobiles had to be changed to more trendy ones in more trendy colors every couple of years. The fact that he was keeping his longer was, apparently, just not done. That would be a difficult tide-of-encouragement-to-consume to keep up with. I'm certain that not everyone is like that there, and this was about five years ago (world situation's tightened), but the fact that such consumerism exists is kind of scary. It’s true, it’s so true; I don’t know what can be done! I have been compulsively eating for the past couple of weeks. When I meditate, I see the cause. Then I buy the food anyway. This is a very current trend for me. It is selfish. I’m using up my own resources, I’m contributing to society’s consumerism. I’m aging my organs by making them work so much harder. It’s terrible! Now, a fat tax… that’s interesting. I think Oprah and her audience would stand against it. :) For me, I think I’m about to start consuming large bunches of celery.

I do think it makes a difference what the attitudes are surrounding a person. In the US, it’s very easy to get taken away by eating many large meals plus snacking, if the mood hits. I suspect it may be easier in Europe to at least at some point, if hit with this compulsion, hit a wall sooner. I mean, if there’s a lot of discouragement. In the US, people have been getting bigger. Then they want it to be ok for others because the larger size can be normal. So fighting the compulsion to eat (or overly consume in some other way), is like fighting a societal current.

Someone told me about an experience he had living in Southern California here in the States. He said that his keeping some sort of vehicle — somebody told him that it had become unfashionable; like it was embarrassing for him that he didn’t realize that. The point was that automobiles had to be changed to more trendy ones in more trendy colors every couple of years. The fact that he was keeping his longer was, apparently, just not done. That would be a difficult tide-of-encouragement-to-consume to keep up with. I’m certain that not everyone is like that there, and this was about five years ago (world situation’s tightened), but the fact that such consumerism exists is kind of scary.

]]> By: Nicola francis http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-43 Nicola francis Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:05:18 +0000 http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-43 Here in the U.K obesity certainly isn't encouraged or excuses made for obese people eating one too many pies.! As a child we were encouraged to eat all on our plate. But we didn't eat super-sized portions and didn't eat chips/crisps and chocolate in between. Whilst I appreciate there is a genetic gene for anything these days It's still possible to remain healthy. If your calorie intake far exceeds your ability to burn calories off then you will slowly but surely put weight on. I have been fortunate to have had an active life, Even if it was walking to a friends house 1 mile away. And on the way home! I ate chocolate and crisps... Balance in life is what it's all about don't you think.. Here in the U.K obesity certainly isn’t encouraged or excuses made for obese people eating one too many pies.! As a child we were encouraged to eat all on our plate. But we didn’t eat super-sized portions and didn’t eat chips/crisps and chocolate in between.
Whilst I appreciate there is a genetic gene for anything these days It’s still possible to remain healthy.
If your calorie intake far exceeds your ability to burn calories off then you will slowly but surely put weight on.
I have been fortunate to have had an active life, Even if it was walking to a friends house 1 mile away. And on the way home! I ate chocolate and crisps…
Balance in life is what it’s all about don’t you think..

]]> By: JustPissedOff.com http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-42 JustPissedOff.com Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:09:12 +0000 http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-42 <strong>Obesity is more than just stuffing your fat face</strong> It is always great to see people speak their mind and tell the truth. Through my travels down the super highway a post on obesity piqued my curiosity. With a catchy title like “Obesity How the Fat Guy Beside You is Killing You, Your Family and ... Obesity is more than just stuffing your fat face

It is always great to see people speak their mind and tell the truth. Through my travels down the super highway a post on obesity piqued my curiosity. With a catchy title like “Obesity How the Fat Guy Beside You is Killing You, Your Family and …

]]> By: Hans Lak http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-40 Hans Lak Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:31:09 +0000 http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-40 What does your dreambody look like? Do you need a special fat tax like the dutch government is discussing right now? To stop you from eating too much junkfood? Or do you just need the right motivation to loose weight! We think that outdoorsteppers are the best fat burners! One hour on the outdoorsteppers are like 3 hours on your bike! My nephew had 120 KG last summer! He has 68KG now he is a totally new person!Many people dont recognize him when they see him. He lost more than 50 KG in less than 8 months..without any diet but he loves to ride the steppers ! Diets are useless you must change your eating habits! The secret of loosing much weight and getting in shape is to find the balance between what you eat and what you burn in your workout. Eat less and better and move your body! Make sure that you enjoy your new sport ride your bike, start walking enjoy the outdoors! My Friend Nature Fitness Guru Uli Pramann has sold millions of books about how to loose weight by running or with nordic walking. Sport is much better than the best diet.. If you want a fast result you can have a very cheap diet for the first week! Everybody can loose weigth with the magic cabbage soup and it tasts great if you make it hot and spicy! You can eat as much soup as you like! Sounds great does not it! You dont need expensive food to loose weight... http://www.successful-diet-cabbage-soup.com/ You loose at least 5-7 Kg in the first week but its just a kick off! You dont need expensive herbalife products to loose weight and shape your body! Eat more vegetables and move your body! The 3 G Stepper is the fitnessmonster that will burn all your fat! What does your dreambody look like?

Do you need a special fat tax like the dutch government is discussing right now? To stop you from eating too much junkfood?
Or do you just need the right motivation to loose weight!
We think that outdoorsteppers are the best fat burners!
One hour on the outdoorsteppers are like 3 hours on your bike!

My nephew had 120 KG last summer! He has 68KG now he is a totally new person!Many people dont recognize him when they see him. He lost more than 50 KG in less than 8 months..without any diet but he loves to ride the steppers ! Diets are useless you must change your eating habits!

The secret of loosing much weight and getting in shape is to find the balance between what you eat and what you burn in your workout.
Eat less and better and move your body! Make sure that you enjoy your new sport ride your bike, start walking enjoy the outdoors!

My Friend Nature Fitness Guru Uli Pramann has sold millions of books about how to loose weight by running or with nordic walking.
Sport is much better than the best diet.. If you want a fast result you
can have a very cheap diet for the first week! Everybody can loose weigth with the magic cabbage soup and it tasts great if you make it hot and spicy! You can eat as much soup as you like! Sounds great does not it!
You dont need expensive food to loose weight…
http://www.successful-diet-cabbage-soup.com/

You loose at least 5-7 Kg in the first week but its just a kick off!

You dont need expensive herbalife products to loose weight and shape your body! Eat more vegetables and move your body!
The 3 G Stepper is the fitnessmonster that will burn all your fat!

]]> By: Steve N. Lee http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-39 Steve N. Lee Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:33:03 +0000 http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-39 Daniel, I think Hans has told me that the Dutch may be introducing a tax on junk food. If I can track him down to expand, I will. Steve Daniel,

I think Hans has told me that the Dutch may be introducing a tax on junk food. If I can track him down to expand, I will.

Steve

]]> By: Daniel Boddington http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-38 Daniel Boddington Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:30:04 +0000 http://www.LionsLedBySheep.com/2008/03/13/obesity-how-the-fat-guy-beside-you-is-killing-you-your-family-and-everything-you-love/#comment-38 Its good to see someone finally looking at the whole picture. I think all my feelings with regards to obesity itself are pretty much covered by the article and responses. However what confuses me is how people are so worried about telling obese people that a burnden on health resources and it would be against their rights to be made to eat less, yet smokers are still singled out and scapegoated (in the UK at least) and told that they cant smoke here, there anywhere, they have to pay extortionate taxes on cigarettes and no-one thinks twice about telling a smoker whats 'best' for them. Why aren't we putting the same extortionate taxes on excessively fatty foods? Why is it against peoples rights to tell someone their eating habits are damaging society but ok to harrass smokers to no end? And for the record, I am neither obese nor a smoker, just so you know that i'm unbiased-ish :) Its good to see someone finally looking at the whole picture.

I think all my feelings with regards to obesity itself are pretty much covered by the article and responses. However what confuses me is how people are so worried about telling obese people that a burnden on health resources and it would be against their rights to be made to eat less, yet smokers are still singled out and scapegoated (in the UK at least) and told that they cant smoke here, there anywhere, they have to pay extortionate taxes on cigarettes and no-one thinks twice about telling a smoker whats ‘best’ for them.
Why aren’t we putting the same extortionate taxes on excessively fatty foods? Why is it against peoples rights to tell someone their eating habits are damaging society but ok to harrass smokers to no end?

And for the record, I am neither obese nor a smoker, just so you know that i’m unbiased-ish :)

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