Nov 27 2008

Human Rights Abuses – Will You be Next?

Published by Steve N. Lee at 2:51 pm under changing the world, human rights

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Justice… Does it Exist?

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The sky is green.

Justis.

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Some things are just so wrong any halfwit can see it. So why is finding true justice so difficult?

But maybe you don’t think it is. Maybe you think:

  • the law always sees justice is served 
  • the law always knows who the true ‘villains’ are 
  • the law always punishes the guilty and protects the innocent, i.e. YOU

Let me tell you a story…

The other Friday, while I was waiting for traffic to pass to cross a road in my local town, a parked car set off and reversed into me. It shoved me sideways and forced me to jump out of its way to avoid injury. (A similar incident to that of two months ago. Great, huh!?)

(A similar incident to that I wrote about two months ago. Great, huh!?)

When confronted, the driver confirmed she’d seen me but did not apologise; did not show any concern for if she’d injured me; did not care about driving dangerously. What did she do? Swore at me for being in her way!

People with such disregard for human life only understand one thing - money.

I kicked her car door. If she sees it’s going to cost her in repair bills, she might think twice before mowing down pedestrians in the future.

Justice was served.

Sadly, the police didn’t agree.

Especially when eye-witnesses did not see a dangerous driver hit a pedestrian, but, on raised voices attracting attention, saw a big, powerful man kick a poor, defenceless woman’s car.

I was handcuffed, fingerprinted, and banged-up in custody for over SEVEN HOURS!

Think that’s bad?

Despite remaining calm and polite, whilst I was in custody:

  • The police refused my TWO requests to use my one phone call to tell Ania, my partner, what had happened and not to worry. 
  • Despite being arrested at lunchtime, and despite me telling them I hadn’t eaten since my 7a.m. breakfast, they gave me nothing to eat. By the time I was released and finally ate, I’d suffered without food for 13½ hours!
  • The lawyer the police said they’d contact on my behalf never materialized, so after three hours of waiting, and my requests for updates being ignored, I asked to contact a lawyer of my own choosing. Denied. 
  • While being ‘processed’ and having most of my possessions confiscated, I asked if I could keep my handkerchief. They refused. They said I had to use the tissue paper provided. The only tissue provided was a half-used roll of toilet paper which was, literally, sitting on the rim of the cell’s toilet bowl. 
  • The leaflet they’d given me explaining my rights said I could request a pen and paper. I did in order to write everything down while it was fresh in my mind. Denied.
  • Feeling cold while being processed, I also asked if I could keep my coat. Denied. It was so bitterly cold in my cell that when I finally gave my statement, my hands were too numb to hold the pen to sign my name properly. 
  • The leaflet on rights states: “Everything that happens to you… is recorded on… the Custody Record. [If you request one,] the police have to give you a copy of the Custody Record as soon as they can.” As soon as they can? I’ve been waiting eight days.

Incompetence meets the absurd, huh? I mean, what did the police imagine? That if I phoned Ania she’d dash over to rescue me Rambo-style, but if that failed I’d tunnel my way out with my hanky!? 

When I finally gave my account of events, the police didn’t care about the dangerous driver hitting me, didn’t care about the driver’s complete lack of concern, didn’t care about ‘justice’.

What did they care about?

Property being damaged!

All the work on human rights I’ve put into my novel ‘What if…?’ and this blog, yet still I was naïve enough to believe that personal well-being would come before property ownership. How dumb am I?

And all this in England, the birthplace of modern democracy and rights! It was like being in some corrupt Third World dictatorship!

I wasn’t charged with an offence, but I did receive a Police Caution. (No action was taken against the driver.)

And for those readers who believe the police do a marvellous job under adverse conditions [PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT TO THAT EFFECT!], I could reel off a long list of instances of incompetence or injustice!

Want one?

It took the police five minutes to respond to this car-kicking ‘crime’.

In 2003 I was mugged by a five-strong gang of Asian men. Beaten unconscious, I was left for dead in battered heap on the ground. It took the police five hours to respond to that emergency.

  • Kick someone’s head - police response time is five hours.
  • Kick someone’s car - police response time is five minutes.

You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to do that math!

The problem is the law isn’t there to protect the individual so much as to protect property. Property is money in a different form. And that’s the main thing the authorities care about. Why? Because it’s those with the majority of the money who make all the laws!

And today’s culture perpetuates our worshipping of property by all but writing it into our DNA!

From the moment it’s born, a child is taught to prize the ownership of ‘stuff’ over virtually everything else. As if that isn’t bad enough, many are now taught that they ‘deserve’ only the best in life, leading them to simply take what they want by any means necessary. Is it any wonder there’s so much violence in our society?

If he’s standing still, and has been seen by a driver, a pedestrian should be able to cross a road in safety. If he’s hit by that driver, isn’t that an abuse of his rights? Shouldn’t we do all in our power to ensure fragile humans are not mown down by huge, metal killing machines?

But is such a straightforward scenario where our responsibility ends?

  • What of guzzling a Bud and cramming our faces with pizza while we watch reports on famine in Ethiopia?
  • What of washing our SUVs on a Sunday morning while global warming-induced droughts devastate countries like Mexico?
  • What of denying our children the joy of seeing tigers, whales, elephants, pandas… because we’re too ‘busy’ watching American Idol to protect the planet?

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  • People deserve to be able to walk the streets without fear of attack or injury.
  • They deserve to be able to make informed decisions about their future. 
  • They deserve reasonable healthcare. 
  • They deserve a shelter which provides not just the bare necessities, but a pleasant standard of living. 
  • They deserve peace of mind through security from their work and pleasure from their environment. 
  • But above all, they deserve food and warmth (yes, even in police custody!).

How many of the world’s 6.5 billion people have what they deserve?

Does justice exist?

People are blind to what really goes on in the ‘free’ West. We are supposed to have rights. Supposed to have laws that protect us. Supposed to be free. Are we?

You see, if you don’t fight the abuse that runs rampant in your own neighbourhoods, your cities, and right around the globe, to whom will you turn if you are in trouble? If no one fights, who will care when the next person to have their rights abused is YOU?

If we could learn to truly care for our neighbours and countrymen, that empathy would spread around the globe like a virus and, for the first time in history, Man could finally stand tall and proud at what he’s achieved. Isn’t that worth fighting for?

So go. See. Feel. Live.
Steve

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21 Responses to “Human Rights Abuses – Will You be Next?”

  1. Terrie WNo Gravataron 28 Nov 2008 at 5:16 pm

    I am sorry you had to go through that, Steve. It is such a sad statement of how the way things are.

    We do not live in Democracies anymore, Steve. We live in Semi-Fascist states. Police, local/state/federal governments are incompetent and corrupt. Standards have been dumbed down and hiring protocols are now so low as to be non-existent, hence the goose-stepping Neanderthals that have no compassion, no empathy, no fairness at all in any fibers of their beings. All hail the great God: Money!

    There are people and organizations that fight back, Steve. Does England have something like our ACLU? Problem is, there is SO MUCH corruption and incompetence that the ACLU cannot handle all of it itself. We also have other individuals and organizations that are fighting ‘the system’. It is kept in the dark because the media does not cover ‘good news’–and they are just as corrupt and incompetent as the aforementioned. They are bought.

    But, you are right, the majority of citizens DO NOT CARE about the injustices done to their fellow human beings because they are too busy, too lazy, too overworked and underpaid, too mentally numbed out or too AFRAID to care and speak out. You see, here in the US, one is liable to be TASERED just for witnessing anything, let alone speaking out about it. Or one might get ‘the long ride’ to the police station. No one wants to take the long ride, Steve, because one simply doesn’t survive it. We now have Brownshirts and SS for ‘Policemen’.

    ‘To Protect And Serve’ no longer exists in our towns and boroughs but fear does. Fear is alive and well and living in the dark corners of our minds and souls. The Bush Regime (and 40-year rule of Republicans) has done its work well. It has militarized our police departments and made cops view the public, for which is was meant to serve, as the enemy, not just the true criminals, but ALL of the populace.

    People are beaten with billy-clubs, tasered and in some cases SHOT, IN BROAD DAYLIGHT, ON THE STREETS, VIDEOTAPED!!! And NOTHING is ever done to the perpetrators in blue. NOTHING! They retain their jobs as ‘officers of the law’ or they might get suspended WITH PAY for a month, then right back to brutalizing the public at will. Justice???? THERE IS NONE.

    Oh, we have courts of law, but there are two types of ‘Justice’ here–one for the rich and one for the rest of us. And the one for the rest of us is not a pretty picture is it! You were lucky, Steve, you were released after 13 hours. Here, one is lucky if they get released at all. Alive anyway.

    We have something you don’t have there, the Patriot Act I and II–WE NO LONGER HAVE ANY RIGHTS! Our ‘Police’ can hold us INDEFINATELY, without access to lawyers, family or higher authorities. We can basically be ‘DISAPPEARED’!!! Think we are not living in a Fascist State? Think again….

    But, many are fighting back, Steve, you may not see it or hear about it, but they are out here, doing what they can. It has to be done carefully and under the radar…or they will simply…disappear. About the only tool we have left to us now is the ACLU. A lot of people hate the ACLU but it is the only organization that has been fighting the Patriot Act since it passed. THE ONLY ONE!

    I live for the day that we no longer fear in this country. But I think it will be a long time coming.

  2. Steve N. LeeNo Gravataron 28 Nov 2008 at 10:08 pm

    Hi Terrie,

    I tell you, it was hard not to use this as an opportunity to launch a personal attack and have a good rant about the way things are, but that would’ve lost all credibility, hence my attempt to not personlize the utlimate message - that rights are abused all around the world and we turn a blind eye to it everyday. As I keep saying on this blog - if we don’t address that, the bigger issue, we’re never really going to progress as a species.

    Obviously I’m not going to complain if someone else vents on the ‘lawlessness’ of the law!

    That’s quite a damning description of things, Terrie. It’s no where near as bad in England - thank God! I wonder how many people will believe what you describe and how many will just write it off as the ramblings of a loon? That’s the problem with my post - they’ll think there’s more to the story I’ve told, something I haven’t dared to tell, which explains why I was treated how I was. Sorry, guys but that’s the full story, nothing left out. This is what really goes on.

    The best bit is, I finally got that Custody Record today. There’s one entry on it that says they let me speak to a lawyer on the phone, which they wouldn’t allow - this they later corrected on the record to say it hadn’t happened. So why was it listed in the first place? Later they say they gave me a hot meal! Lying b*stards! That was NOT corrected.

    Of course, I’ve no come back because they’ll just close ranks and swear it’s me who’s making things up because I was upset at being arrested. It’s a now win situation for me; all win for them.

    Yes, the media is bought. They pick and choose what ‘truth’ they’ll reveal to the masses and what they won’t. But then, they don’t have it all their own way either - some things get out whether anyway and others are hushed up whether the media wants to lead with it or not.

    Indefinite detention? I didn’t know that. Here they can keep you for 24 hours without charging you. Though, as you’ve seen, it can feel so much longer!

    Yep, we’re in a sorry mess. Wonder what it’s going to take for things to change?

    Have a wonderful weekend, Terrie. Good to hear from you again. Hope you had a Happy Thanksgiving!
    Steve

  3. FaithMichaelsNo Gravataron 30 Nov 2008 at 7:55 pm

    Well Steve maybe the Creator wanted U to see what the world is like once one is arrested. Now perhaps You can bring a very much needed spotlight on this highly misunderstood subject.
    Unfortunately your story is not unique and how they get away with it is in the illusion of “we don’t mistreat people who are arrested in our country”. There is the often unspoken thought of ‘if one is arrested then one must be guilty” and therefor no more thought is given to the “circumstances” surrounding the action that one was arrested for.
    I have observed that people in general have a mindset that our prisoners are treated fairly and nothing is farther from the truth.The sad truth is that when it comes to jail we are not much better than third world countries. Now before someone says something in regards to prison conditions around the world I will say this –Just because ours are a wee bit ‘better” than others does not in any way excuse the lazy non caring law breaking jailers who do not seem to mind breaking the laws of the land in regards to proper treatment of people who are jailed . If one truly wants to know what happens in our jails then one needs to have a conversation with the poor people of this country and any other country. That treatment is the reality of how laws in the country are used towards it’s citizens. Any one who believes otherwise is living in a dream world or they are pretending to be an ostrich with their head in the sand.

  4. Steve N. LeeNo Gravataron 01 Dec 2008 at 10:57 am

    Yes, Faith, it’s supposed to be ‘innocent till proven guitly’ but it’s more ‘guilty or not yet proven guilty’ and being treated accordingly by the police.

    But that’s beside the point. Regardless of guilt, you shouldn’t be locked up and denied the two most basic needs for life: food and warmth.

    I’m afraid I don’t know a great deal about the prison service to know what is common practise. I only know one person whose ever done time - he spent a couple of months in a minimum security prison here in England on a drugs charge. While it may well have been male bravado, he said it wasn’t that bad at all and the ironic thing was that he had access to as many drugs in prison as he did when he was free. It’s this kind of story/picture that drives many good people to despair - why should their taxes be wasted on providing ‘villains’ with colour TV, hot meals, recreational facilities…

    As I say, I’m no authority, so hesitate from commenting further. All I know is that the way I was treated will most definitely NOT be unique. People will be being abused like this everywhere, everyday. It’s inhuman. It’s no wonder the world is in such a mess, is it? And it’s never going to change unless people know what’s going on and decide to change it, hence my post.

    Thanks for commenting, Faith,
    Steve

  5. Joan MclaughlinNo Gravataron 01 Dec 2008 at 6:46 pm

    Thank you so very much for this.This happened to me yesterday.Only there were no police.WHY?I was trying to cross the street,with the aid of a cane.This idiot didn’t want to turn where he should.He started to turn prematurely.I stood in front of a parked car and thought I was safe.He sped up and just missed me and the parked car.So I hit his car with my cane,no damage,just to his ego.He stopped in the middle of the intersection ,opened his door and got out.A big cloud of smoke followed him.Guess what that was!His car has very dark tinted windows.The only reason he didn’t call the police was because he is a local drug dealer.Everyone knows,but nothing is done.He yelled and got back in the care and sped off in his Lexus.He lives in a HUD house.So how can he afford that type of car?Three guesses,first 2 don’t count.HAHA!He is known to sell pills ,cocaine and other substances.He has been busted a few times but ends up back on the street in days.

    Sometimes I think the criminals have more justice than the average Joe on the street.Thanks for letting me vent my frusrations.

    I hope all works out for you and best wishes on your book.

  6. Steve N. LeeNo Gravataron 01 Dec 2008 at 9:33 pm

    You’re welcome, Joan. It’s scary how people prize their property so highly compared to life, isn’t it? Even if that property is ill-gotten. But, as you say, if he feels he’s untouchable, then why should he care if he hurts people? After all, he obviously doesn’t care how his ‘business’ hurts the community or individuals, does he? And neither do the police if they let him back on the streets time and time again.

    I’m sure many people know just what you mean when you say criminals have more justice than the average person - they do seem to. For instance, if someone assaults you in England and you fight back, you are only allowed to use the minimum force necessary for you to escape. But how to you know what that is? How do you know if you knock someone down they won’t just get back up and try to kill you? So, to play safe, while they are on the ground, you stamp on their knees and break them so they can’t get up. Then that person can sue you for assault. And the police will probably prosecute you because you used unreasonable force. It doesn’t matter that you were the victim of an attack, all that matters is you used excessive force. Great, huh?

    Yep, people can abuse you as they like and you can’t do a damn thing - if you take it upon yourself to act, the police do you. If you run to the police for help, they invariably aren’t interested. For the average law-abiding citizen it’s a lose:lose situation, I’m afraid.

    As I said, it’s no wonder the world is in the mess it is.

    Thanks for commenting and I hope venting helped!
    Steve

  7. MilesunlimitedNo Gravataron 02 Dec 2008 at 6:12 am

    I’m glad your ok, you say this happened before? As a caring friend I implore you to find a safer place to live!

    I see there is not any difference in being thrown in jail between our two countries. However, do they still not carry firearms? But perhaps you can’t either (if you wanted to, I mean.)

    All kidding aside, my divorce attorney gave me the most accurate explanation I have ever heard about the institution of law. “There is no such thing as justice. It is a process.” Sadly, your observances correlate with mine as to modern day values in our respective countries. The words justice, moral values and respect for life have become trademarks or “brands” along with “patriotism” or moral conviction. So sad. Please take measures to stay safe.

    Your friend, Andrew

  8. Steve N. LeeNo Gravataron 02 Dec 2008 at 11:56 am

    Thanks, Andrew. And believe me, I thought I was taking measures to stay safe - waiting for traffic to pass before trying to cross a busy road. I have since thought how much more justice there might be with a return to the culture of the Old West and putting your faith in your speed with your trusty Colt!

    But then, we are seeing such a return in many respects - the amount of gun/knife crime on our streets you’d be forgiven for thinking there was no real law and people were turning to barbarism to get what they wanted.

    Yes, you’re right - justice and moral values have lost their real meaning, these days. They’re out-moded concepts which many people simply can’t grasp and have no time for anyway as they interfer with their busy schedules. We have to reverse this trend or the world is going to become a very ugly place.

    Thanks, Andrew. Hope your week’s going well,
    Steve

  9. KimNo Gravataron 02 Dec 2008 at 2:01 pm

    I am happy to hear that you are out safely. Alot of our jails in this country are not safe even just the holding cells. Here, the pedestrian has the ‘right of way’. If I am making a turn and someone wants to cross the street I will wave them across regardless of how many people are behind me honking their horns.
    It’s the times we live in, everyone is in a hurry to get somewhere. Even if they have plenty of time. They cut in and out of traffic cutting off other drivers and causing near collisions. I always wonder ‘where are the cops when these things happen” yet I see them around all the time parked under some tree in a parking lot. I’ve been to jail once when I was 18 and was treated very well but it was an eye opener an have made a personal effort to not ever be in that situation again. The police in this country are different by city, county, township, state etc. They all have different rules and in some very rural area’s, their practices can be devastating. Guilty until proven innocent. The only way this can change is by ‘We, the people’ as stated in our Constitution. I won’t go into to long details but I had a circumstance where there was a confrontation at my home. Our 17 year old neighbor was being threatened by an ex-boyfriend and his two sisters with a baseball bat. She came here for protection. They were going to get into my house one way or another.
    My room mate suffered a cut below his eye, three stitches. A fractured rib and I was hit above my left temple with the baseball bat and they tried to run me over in my front yard. The police finally came and we knew who they were, gave them the addresses etc. But I was told that because they live in a different county they couldn’t go arrest them so they gave us info to file charges with the state attorneys office, which we did.
    We got a letter a few months later that they were not going to press charges. Even though I suffered permanent memory damage. We were told to take them to civil court. Sue them for what? If we won, we would never see any money and frankly, how is money going to remedy permanent physical issues? It wouldn’t. So we didn’t bother. (This country is ’sue happy’ already)
    They also said the officer should have sent an evidence technician so they sent one the next day, after we’d already gone to the hospital. The boy was 17 and was turning 18 soon. That is why they said they weren’t prosecuting. Here in the States, trying to run someone over with a vehicle is considered a felony attempted murder. Still they wouldn’t file charges. We also had witnesses. Moral of the story? If we didn’t live in a low income neighborhood and had money, I’m sure they would have prosecuted to the fullest extent.
    Money talks, bulls**t walks. As far as the treatment in other countries, in comparison, we have it good here and a much better justice system. However, the District Attorneys and Public Defenders are overwhelmed and severely underpaid. We do have a ‘Legal Aid’ service for low income families.
    I belong to an organization called one.org. Look them up! They try to work with ALL nations for injustice, poverty etc. also Amnesty International, they do good work for injustices around the world. Best of luck to you Steve! Thanks for a great post!

  10. ArletteNo Gravataron 02 Dec 2008 at 9:21 pm

    A truely very special “experience”. It was in the end of the 80′ and I just started a new job. Therefore I needed to stay for 3 weeks in Geneva’s Headoffice of the firm. The second morning I was called to the entrance, 2 policemen waiting for me. They arrested me. When I asked the reason they told me ” you have to know what you did”. I had no idea, was worried because my parents were somewhere travelling, without notice since 3 weeks and nobody of my family knew I was in Geneva. I had to pack all my things in the hotel I was staying, give them my passport and was closed up. Waiting for hours without knowing what happened. After some hours a policeagent asked me where I was born. ???? Not to forget, everything in a language which is not my language… Then after all these hours I had had enough time to re-think about my ideas about my country, justice, my believings and much more, the same policemen who arrested me came back and told me that I was very lucky. ???? I was very lucky ?????? Of course, it was not me they were looking for !! They saw my name on the hotelbook, were looking for someone with the same family name and the same birthday ! Great job. My family name is spread like peanuts over the whole country, big chance that an other girl is born the same day ! They did not ask back details to the police in Berne who was looking for that other women. They just saw a new arrest and the “points” to earn for being upgraded. You will not belive it, but a week after this they came again to arrest me… all said. Our police has the flying word ” the police your friend”, I rather remain on my mountain without a living soul than having this kind of friends.
    However, I must say that this special event changed my life in so many things that I hardly would be what I am without this. It was like a cold shower on my never examined belivings coming from a very protected childhood.
    love and peace and please take care of yourself !
    your friend arlette
    PS : it was a good new job, they kept me dispite my being arrested :-)

  11. Mary NealNo Gravataron 03 Dec 2008 at 5:13 am

    Hello, Everyone. For the most highly censored news that thousands of folks know about but mainstream media ignores, see this and please confirm receipt.

    I write about the mentally ill in prisons - 1.25 million of the 2.3 million folks there.

    Thanks for this forum. People in a justice quest need this kind of help.

    Mary Neal
    Assistance to the Incarcerated Mentally Ill
    http://www.care2.com/c2c/people/profile.html?pid=513396753

  12. Dave RandleNo Gravataron 03 Dec 2008 at 3:02 pm

    Hi Steve:

    Your experience unfortunately is much more common that people might imagine. I consulted years ago for a County Sheriff Dept. and found that officers often take their frustrations of the criminal justice system out on many who they arrest. The thinking is that they are guilty or they wouldn’t have been arrested.

    Having said that, I think you also need to take some responsibility for your reaction of kicking the car. I understand the reaction all to well as I actually kidked a car once myself that just missed hitting me while I was crossing the street in a cross walk.

    Though I was never arrested for that incident like you I have come to see that it was not the best reaction to the situation and in today’s world could have easily escalated to something much worse. Unlike you I was fortunate enough to have two brothers with me who witnessed the car almost hitting me where you seemed to have been alone with the impossible situation of explaining why you were kicking this woman’s car.

    Your insights on the arrest are helpful. I think equally helpful might be the insight that there may have been a better way for you to respond to the situation.

    Dave Randle

  13. Steve N. LeeNo Gravataron 04 Dec 2008 at 7:08 pm

    I’m truly sorry to hear you’ve suffered permanent disability and that the authorities weren’t prepared to do anything about it, Kim. It’s amazing how little true justice there is in the world these days, isn’t it?

    In England pedestrians have right of way, too. Many motorists, however, are very busy people who can’t have their lives hampered by such technicalities as the fact they might kill someone by running them over. As you’ve seen from my story, the police don’t think too highly of that law either!

    The thing is, if the law doesn’t protect you, the authorities shouldn’t blame you if you then take the law into your own hands. Sadly, they do. They forget you are the real victim. As in your case, not punishing those responsible only adds to your injury and makes you an even bigger victim. It’s awful what the criminal element of society is allowed to get away with. Awful.

    Thanks for contributing what must be a very upsetting personal tale, Kim.

    Arlette, that’s a horrendous story!

    Years ago I was arrested for something I hadn’t done just because, like you, I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, so I know just how you must have felt.

    And for those who don’t know - the police don’t really care they’ve got the wrong person. There’s no great apology, remorse, or compensation. Oh no, they’re only interested in results to further their personal careers or to meet the targets they’ve been set and present a nice set of statistics to their bosses. If they arrest the wrong person, then it’s simply part of the job - like a secretary putting a document in the wrong file or a store clerk giving someone the wrong change. They really are so blase about it.

    I’m glad to hear that you took something positive from the experience, Arlette. If you dig deep enough for long enough, there’s usually something you can take away from most unpleasant episodes.

    Thanks for sharing your story. And I’m pleased your employers were sympathetic.

    Thanks both of you,
    Steve

  14. Steve N. LeeNo Gravataron 04 Dec 2008 at 7:19 pm

    There are a lot of mentally ill imprisoned in this country too, Mary. Though I’m not sure of numbers, whether their incarceration is the cause of their illness, or what treatment they get.

    Yes, Dave, I’m sure that’s part of the problem. And I’m sure my case isn’t an isolated one.

    I suppose there were other ways I could have dealt with the situation, yes, except they would all have involved me turning a blind eye to a dangerous driver who refused to accept responsibility for what she’d done. Anyone whose read my blog before knows that was never going to happen.

    And why should people be allowed to get away with such things? It makes the world more dangerous for all of us.

    Alternatives?

    The police wouldn’t have been interested as I wasn’t hurt - though my knee has been playing up since.

    A civil case would’ve been extremely costly and I had no witnesses anyway.

    And let’s face it, I didn’t assault her, only a piece of metal.

    Like I told the police - her car him me; I hit her car. Where’s the problem?

    But of course the problem is that I damaged property, and property is all important as it’s much harder to replace than a human life!

    Thanks for your taking the time to share your insight into police life, Dave.
    Steve

  15. DeniseNo Gravataron 04 Dec 2008 at 8:31 pm

    Steve, I’m so sorry you had to go through such BS! It’s disgusting how the criminals are protected more than the victims. You are the victim. Although it wasn’t right of you to kick the car door, I know it was out of frustration at the fact that she didn’t seem sorry & didn’t care if she almost killed you. It’s horrible how objects hold more weight than living beings nowadays.

    I hope you report your treatment, as maybe you can get some sort of compensation for th epolice going against what was in that leaflet, i.e., the law.

  16. Tim RNo Gravataron 04 Dec 2008 at 8:35 pm

    Steve, mate, I’m so sorry to hear about all this, especially when it was really nothing. It sounds to me like more of a civil matter than criminal. I’ve known for awhile that England is a police state, but I understand it far more clearly now, having read your blog.

    To address the point you’re making, with which I heartily agree; Money, the pursuit of money, the protection of one’s money, the worship of ‘things’……yes, this is what causes the vast majority of the evil that takes place in this world. The apostle Paul said it is “the love of money” that is “the root of all evil”.

    It was a bit over 18 months ago when I had my life wiped out….or so I thought at the time. I lost my health, my mother passed away, I lost my career as a chef (too sick to work), I lost my house and damned-near everything in it, I lost my car and my driver’s license (too sick to drive). I’m surviving on the kindness of friends, but primarily the grace of God.
    After I’d lost all those ‘things’ and all that ’stuff’, I discovered that the materialistic part of me had gone. It has been replaced by a deep hunger for spiritual things. The tiniest things mean so much to me, because I have so little. I have learned what is REALLY important in life, and those things are not tangible; love, peace, joy, contentment, laughter; caring for others, being a help to someone else, just listening to someone, on the phone, when they’re going through something troublesome or difficult. I have so little, but there is so much I can do, and it doesn’t cost a penny.

    If people could put everyone else ahead of themselves, and stop living their lives “Me First!”, this would be such a wonderful and peaceful world.

    Brightest Blessings to all,
    and a Warm, Happy, Joyous
    Holiday Season!
    Tim )O(

  17. Nikolas KarmanNo Gravataron 06 Dec 2008 at 9:11 am

    Hi Steve I understand how you must have felt having been in similar situations many years ago. I have now discovered a response that seems to have the required effect. I politely ask the person what have i done to cause them to want to kill me and it it their intention is to kill me, if this has no effect I inform them that our conversation is being recorded for training purposes. One woman had a child in the back of the car and after she attempted to run me down i asked if she was training her child in the art of murder. It made her stop and think and she could not apologise enough, got the impression she thought the child would repeat the experience to his dad or someone.
    The key to our lives is the 7 natural laws check out the above website.
    What people need to understand that law and order and peoples rights have been replaced by government and law enforcement by private corporations in the employ of the banksters who need this support to carry out their atrocities on human rights around the world.
    Regards Nikolas

  18. Steve N. LeeNo Gravataron 07 Dec 2008 at 8:17 pm

    Thanks, Denise. Yes, there are channels that I can use to have this incident investigated. I’m going to look into that as other people are obviously going to suffer such treatment if nothing is done about it. My only concerns are who it is that does the investigation, and how the police will react to such a complaint - i.e. will I be marked for ’special’ treatment! (Like that never goes on! My cousin was a cop years ago so I know what happens.)

    The issues, though, should not be clouded by whether I should or should not have kicked the car. The issues are:
    1) that I had my rights denied
    2) that property is often thought more important than human life/safety
    3) that is we agree human rights are paramount, then shouldn’t that apply to every one, not just our neighbours and countrymen.

    Thanks for adding to the conversation and for your concern, Denise.

    Tim, we’ve spoken of these matters before, haven’t we? And while it saddens me to imagine all the anguish and heartache you must have gone through, it amazes, and heartens, me to hear you describe all the positives it has brought to your life. If only other people could be so philosophical in such situations. Indeed, many would probably just step under a bus without even trying!

    You obviously a very special mindset to have survived such circumstances and come out a better person. I doff my cap to you, my friend. I hope others can glean something positive from your experiences if they are suffering hardship at the moment.

    Thanks for sharing, Tim.

    You’re spot on, Nikolas. There is no justice except that which can protect the interests of those who ‘have’ compared to those who ‘have not’. And no guesses for who has the most to have the most influence! Yep, you nailed that one, my friend.

    Yes, England might have birthed modern democracry and rights, but it’s sadly going backwards nowadays. We don’t have anything like The Patriot Act, but things still aren’t too good - as you’ve gathered from my post. The reasons are manifold - too many to mention here so may be fodder for a follow-up post. Suffice it to say that statistics and targets, together with today’s dumbed-down consumer worshipping society do not make a just world. But then you obviously don’t need me to tell you that.

    Thanks for adding your thoughts, Nikolas.

    Steve

  19. SueNo Gravataron 09 Dec 2008 at 5:43 pm

    Hi Steve,

    I couldn’t agree with this article more, if I had written it myself.

    I too was a victim of a crime…I received a threat on my life. I called our emergency Police telephone number. It took the Police 3 days to show up at my office. In the meantime, I had to have someone with me every day.

    I asked our infamous Boys in Blue why they were showing up 3 days after the incident considering that I could have been dead already. I asked if they had arrived to attend my memorial.

    They weren’t very impressed with my sarcastic remarks and were threatening to take me into custody until I reminded them that in Canada, I am still allowed freedom of speech. It is not against the law to speak my mind but it is against the law to threaten to kill someone. I informed them that they should be taking the individual who first threatened me into custody and to stop wasting my time. After this statement, they took down the particulars and left. I never did hear of the outcome.

    My husband says that the following is now revelant in our so called free society “We are free to do as we are told.”

    With much respect,
    Sue

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  21. Steve N. LeeNo Gravataron 18 Dec 2008 at 4:17 pm

    Vladi, this blog post is not about carbon emissions, global warming, fuel efficiency, or pollution, as such your comment is highly inappropriate. While you made a token gesture towards the subject of the starting your comment with a couple of paragraphs kind of on subject (a word count of 167 excluding the quotes you used from the blog), your main topic was your engineering patent, which you described at length - at such extreme length that section of your comment was 1816 words long!

    I will not allow people to hijack my blog and transform it into their own personal billboard. After a number of people posted adverts (you being one of them), I said recently I will ban people who abuse my blog. I don’t mind if you comment on a post and add a reference to something else in closing or in the signature, (note the words ‘reference’ and ‘in closing’) but you have simply posted a 2000 word article promoting your commercial venture.

    If I went onto an engineering blog and posted a couple of chapters of my thriller, I wouldn’t be upset or surprised if it was deleted and I was banned. Why do you think your comment is acceptable here?

    At the right time, in the right place, such a comment - IF far more concise AND far less of a sales pitch - would be welcome, but if this happens again, you will be banned. Final warning.

    I do NOT appreciate my time being wasted!
    Steve

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